January 16, 2026
Eps 048: Embodying Leisure Ethic w. Xanthe Appleyard
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This week I chat with the content queen herself Xanthe Appleyard! Our conversation explores what it means to lead, create, and build sustainably – from a foundation of pleasure and self-trust. Xanthe shares the organic evolution of her “leisure ethic” — a values-based framework rooted in autonomy, integration, and choice.

Although I wanted to explore all of Xanthe’s 12 principles, in 60 minutes we could only talk through only a handful. That said, this robust conversation offers so many reflections on auditing work for alignment, redefining pleasure in personal language, navigating hard conversations, and embracing conflict as intimacy, and how sustainable success emerges from integration rather than sacrifice.

Grounded in Xanthe’s real-life transitions, she offers so much insight on a human-centered blueprint for building a life and business that honors the whole self.

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